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the author of "here come the black helicopters" out next week, former clinton advisor dick morris. so he can't meet with benjamin newnewt gingrichnetanyahu, becao on "the view," meet with beyonce. >> they've found numerous instances of terrorist attacks in banghazi, including two bombings of our consulate in banghazi in the weeks and months before the terrorist attacks that killed our ambassador. so this, a, shows that the president is just not on -- not there. he's just not paying attention to, thito this. nor is hillary. these attacks should have prompted security, increased efforts to protect the ambassador. the ambassador himself was threatened with assassination. as the committee draws that out on the one hand in your fast and furious coming out with evidence more and more of the use of those guns, this administration is unraveling. it becomes very clear that nobody was there. >> sean: it's unraveling, but he doesn't take national security briefings both before and after this attack. four people are dead. the bigger issue is always the cover-up. now we're covering that they ha
the author of "here come the black helicopters" out next week, former clinton advisor dick morris. so he can't meet with benjamin newnewt gingrichnetanyahu, becao on "the view," meet with beyonce. >> they've found numerous instances of terrorist attacks in banghazi, including two bombings of our consulate in banghazi in the weeks and months before the terrorist attacks that killed our ambassador. so this, a, shows that the president is just not on -- not there. he's...
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secretary clinton is brilliant as a diplomat, she is trying to pull together what she has got. but the fact of the matter is, we're coming out. the taliban knows it. so does the karzai government, why would this not be a bad situation? >> so looking at history, sir, is the u.s. the soviet union? >> well, no, not at all. we're actually in there, and i think in a legitimate way. with a punitive expedition to try to respond to the attack, which was launched and coordinated from afghanistan. and, so i think the intervention was legitimate. it was flawed execution, starting with the bush team. president obama surged more forces in there, did some good on the ground. but it didn't produce an afghan government that was competent, and had some sense integrity, the key to afghanistan is pakistan, and possibly, they're on the verge of unraveling also, potentially with nuclear weapons, so tough situation for america. >> yes, you have to be sitting down when you here those statements, thank you. >>> and now to number four, it appears michael vick may own a dog, the evidence comes from a tw
secretary clinton is brilliant as a diplomat, she is trying to pull together what she has got. but the fact of the matter is, we're coming out. the taliban knows it. so does the karzai government, why would this not be a bad situation? >> so looking at history, sir, is the u.s. the soviet union? >> well, no, not at all. we're actually in there, and i think in a legitimate way. with a punitive expedition to try to respond to the attack, which was launched and coordinated from...
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and there was this moment when he debated hillary clinton. let's take a look. >> he's very likeable. i agree with that. i don't think i'm that bad. >> you're likeable enough, hillary. >> i appreciate that. >> a fine line between, you know, putting your opponent on notice and not appearing to be mean. >> yes. the thing about that clip is she's so self-effacing and good, and he comes back, barely makes eye contact, sort of writing as he makes his line. it's a contrast between the two of them that really hurts him in that clip. >> especially in the double box. professor schroeder, thank you for being with us and patrick millsaps. we'll be watching tomorrow. it will be fascinating. 50 million people expected to watch. 150 million people killed in syria today. we'll tell you what an opposition spokesman is saying about the foreign minister's call for a dialogue next. >>> susan hendricks back with the "360" news and business bulletin. >> another deadly day in syria. an opposition group says at least 150 people have been killed in violence throughou
and there was this moment when he debated hillary clinton. let's take a look. >> he's very likeable. i agree with that. i don't think i'm that bad. >> you're likeable enough, hillary. >> i appreciate that. >> a fine line between, you know, putting your opponent on notice and not appearing to be mean. >> yes. the thing about that clip is she's so self-effacing and good, and he comes back, barely makes eye contact, sort of writing as he makes his line. it's a...
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what did hillary clinton know? has she been takenning her briefings? was she briefed about the situation in libya? was she the one who said, no, we are not going to be providing the security they have asked for? this has those go to the highest levels, given how important it is, given the importance of the post in libya and the ongoing terrorist threat. and the american people need to understand, the president is attempting to cover this up because he wants people tong, oncely got osama bin laden, the threat was gone dha he has been a national security president, when his record is abysmal? >> i want to know why see sew many people cover up for him. nbc news is the worst this. president, 36 days ow of an election, you promised to cut the deficit in half and you gave us $6 trillion in debt. you said we would have 8.7 million new jobs and unemployment at 5 percent, still hasn't been asked this question. could you imagine if this happened to your father if he was running for election or re-election. >> paul ryan talked about it. he says as conservatives,
what did hillary clinton know? has she been takenning her briefings? was she briefed about the situation in libya? was she the one who said, no, we are not going to be providing the security they have asked for? this has those go to the highest levels, given how important it is, given the importance of the post in libya and the ongoing terrorist threat. and the american people need to understand, the president is attempting to cover this up because he wants people tong, oncely got osama bin...
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former clinton white house aide, keith boykin. rick lazio, former republican congressman from new york. rick lazio, i begin with you, good evening to you. >> hello, larry. >> this is a gigantic audience, the key issue of our time is still the economy and jobs. so far mitt romney has not been able to make the sale. that's what the polls show. that's why this thing is close. why hasn't he and what's he going to do tonight differently than he's done in the past. >> i think he's going to make the contrast with president obama, why expanding the pie is in the national interest. not redistributing an ever slowing economy but expanding the pie so everybody gets a job that wants a job, people's salaries are rising. i think he needs to lay out the picture, paint the picture for the audience, frankly, larry, of what america would look like after four years of pro-growth policies. more kid graduating and getting jobs that they were trained to do, more people going to work with full-time jobs, fewer people bailing out of the economy, not look
former clinton white house aide, keith boykin. rick lazio, former republican congressman from new york. rick lazio, i begin with you, good evening to you. >> hello, larry. >> this is a gigantic audience, the key issue of our time is still the economy and jobs. so far mitt romney has not been able to make the sale. that's what the polls show. that's why this thing is close. why hasn't he and what's he going to do tonight differently than he's done in the past. >> i think he's...
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you point to former president bill clinton as the master of warmth. i want to show a video of him during town hall with ross perot and then president bush back in 1992. kind of walk us through what we're seeing. >> okay. >> you know people who have lost their jobs and lost their homes. >> so he's walking toward this woman, toward this voter, away from the people onstage so he's focused on the voter, not on the other candidates. he's gentle. his body language is gentle. he's leaning toward her. he's even softened his voice. he's nodding. he makes incredible eye contact. he signals to people when he's talking to them you are the only person in the room. you're the most important person. it's that clinton tractor beam that really melted people. >> is that i feel your pain without actually saying it? >> that's exactly right. >> there's a classic moment between al gore and george w. bush from a debate in 2000. i want to show that, and i want to see what al gore does and how george bush reacts. >> it's not only your philosophy and what's your position on is
you point to former president bill clinton as the master of warmth. i want to show a video of him during town hall with ross perot and then president bush back in 1992. kind of walk us through what we're seeing. >> okay. >> you know people who have lost their jobs and lost their homes. >> so he's walking toward this woman, toward this voter, away from the people onstage so he's focused on the voter, not on the other candidates. he's gentle. his body language is gentle. he's...
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clinton will tell you that. people in his administration will tell you that. he made the difference even though he did not win. the polls will also tell you in july he was leading. in addition, the exit polls will tell you that the people who voted, if they thought they could have won, they would have voted for him and he would have won. much worse today than we were then, and people know it. >> do you think we're much worse today because he was not elected? >> we have lost our way. >> that is history. we're on the edge of the cliff, and we have got to start fixing it now. otherwise we are leaving a disaster to our children and grandchildren and we could even lose our country. if we do not get fixed -- and nobody is talking about what we have to do and why we have to do it. they would prefer not to have it discussed. >> what is happening is we're still coming out of recession, so both candidates, and as president for four years, are using the necessity to dig out from recession before they get to austerity. you could argue that in europe they have tried auster
clinton will tell you that. people in his administration will tell you that. he made the difference even though he did not win. the polls will also tell you in july he was leading. in addition, the exit polls will tell you that the people who voted, if they thought they could have won, they would have voted for him and he would have won. much worse today than we were then, and people know it. >> do you think we're much worse today because he was not elected? >> we have lost our way....
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this is said to have helped bill clinton. bill clinton. in the 1980 republican primary george bush had moment against ronald reagan, until in the debate in new hampshire, there was a moment where reagan looked strong. >> i am paying for this microphone. >> that moment helped change the campaign. >> some o some of them you can . >> read my lips. no new taxes. >> the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull, lipstick. >> other ones, you got to depend on your candidate seizing a moment you didn't expect to happen. >> there you go again. >> most moments so far this election have been poorly phrased comments. >> if you've got a business, you didn't build that. somebody else made that happen. >> i like being able to fire people that provide services to me. >> they'll put y'all back in chains. >> the media call those gaffes, but often the media don't know. when ed musky lost the '072 primary because he looked like he teared up defending his wife, everyone said candidates can't career, because that's week, but then in 2008 hillary clinton cr
this is said to have helped bill clinton. bill clinton. in the 1980 republican primary george bush had moment against ronald reagan, until in the debate in new hampshire, there was a moment where reagan looked strong. >> i am paying for this microphone. >> that moment helped change the campaign. >> some o some of them you can . >> read my lips. no new taxes. >> the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull, lipstick. >> other ones, you got to depend on...
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bush or ronald reagan or bill clinton? do they approached these debates differently or do the american people view it differently when you have a sitting president? >> i think so, yes. one of the things that happens is the incumbent is at somewhat of a disadvantage being placed on an equal footing as the challenger, as we talked about before. incumbents have typically had a very rough time in the first debate. i am thinking back to jimmy carter in 1980. ronald reagan in 1984. george h. w. bush in '92. all of these guys who had been in the presidency, they got on that debate stage and came face-to-face with the challenger. it is rattling. they all had a very difficult time getting through the first debate. in each case, they had to up their game as the series went forward. >> you say, "the morning after the debate, will the media the talking about knockout punches? who knows? a little boldness might make good politics." what do you mean? >> i mean this idea of not approaching this debate as an awful obstacle you have to get
bush or ronald reagan or bill clinton? do they approached these debates differently or do the american people view it differently when you have a sitting president? >> i think so, yes. one of the things that happens is the incumbent is at somewhat of a disadvantage being placed on an equal footing as the challenger, as we talked about before. incumbents have typically had a very rough time in the first debate. i am thinking back to jimmy carter in 1980. ronald reagan in 1984. george h. w....
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politicians seem to do that. >> i think that's a clinton thing. it looks like he's holding a remote control. open gestures are almost always more effective than any closed gestures. >> it's important for a candidate's body language to match what they are saying, right? a classic example going back to 2007, john mccain talking about osama bin laden. i want to play that. >> on the subject of osama bin laden, he is responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent americans, he is now orchestrating other attacks on the united states of america, we will do whatever is necessary, we will track him down, we will capture, bring him to justice and i'll follow him to the gates of hell. >> okay. >> oh, gosh. >> that was like a smile. >> yes. so that's -- you know, sort of nonverbal asin cronie. between either the content of what the person is saying and the nonverbals or the asynchronies. when you are saying you are following someone to the gates of hell, you shouldn't be smiling. viewers don't know why, but it makes them feel bad. >> there are reports th
politicians seem to do that. >> i think that's a clinton thing. it looks like he's holding a remote control. open gestures are almost always more effective than any closed gestures. >> it's important for a candidate's body language to match what they are saying, right? a classic example going back to 2007, john mccain talking about osama bin laden. i want to play that. >> on the subject of osama bin laden, he is responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent americans, he...
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i was called a racist, bill clinton was called a racist. i have seen bill talk to you and others saying donald trump is a good guy. we have a good relationship and he is a good guy. i believe the hate tried he had and maybe doesn't have any more for obama was unbelievable but people are afraid to to take obama on. i don't know what it is. >> this is amazing four years later he saved the democratic convention for obama. he said in 2008 they played the race card with me and they planned it from the beginning. >> he felt that very strongly. >> you feel he did that fto you? >> he did. you mention certain things it's racist. any time you criticize obama whether it's trump or anybody else you get the ratest thing going. it's very unfair, not nice. i enjoyed, i must tell you. i love thinking about running. as you know i was doing incredibly well. people liked what i said whether it was about china or opec ripping us off or whether it was about obama. i wish he were a great president. i am a republican. if he were the greatest president i would be
i was called a racist, bill clinton was called a racist. i have seen bill talk to you and others saying donald trump is a good guy. we have a good relationship and he is a good guy. i believe the hate tried he had and maybe doesn't have any more for obama was unbelievable but people are afraid to to take obama on. i don't know what it is. >> this is amazing four years later he saved the democratic convention for obama. he said in 2008 they played the race card with me and they planned it...
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bill clinton. businessman ross perot entered the race as an independent candidate and the three major parties -- the two major party agreed to allow him to enter the debate. this is an hour and 40 minutes. >> here now is mr. ross perot. >> good to see you. thank you. how are you? thank you. >> now, governor clinton. [applause] and now, president bush. [applause] >> and about 30 seconds, we will be going on the air. good evening, and welcome to the first of 3 debates among the major candidates for president of the united states, sponsored by the commission on presidential debates. the candidates are: independent candidate ross perot, governor bill clinton, the democratic nominee, and president george bush, the republican nominee. i am jim lehrer of the macneil- lehrer news hour on pbs, and i will be the moderator for this 90-minute event, which is taking place before an audience in the athletic complex on the campus of washington university in st. louis, missouri. three journalists will be asking qu
bill clinton. businessman ross perot entered the race as an independent candidate and the three major parties -- the two major party agreed to allow him to enter the debate. this is an hour and 40 minutes. >> here now is mr. ross perot. >> good to see you. thank you. how are you? thank you. >> now, governor clinton. [applause] and now, president bush. [applause] >> and about 30 seconds, we will be going on the air. good evening, and welcome to the first of 3 debates...
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up in that debate with hillary clinton. >> right. >> again, that is who he is. i think we are totally for getting that. >> not only that, but i think we're also for getting that both of these men, to your point, they were who they always have been, even in governing. barack obama has infuriated his own base because of this perception that he doesn't fight hard enough. >> recurrent theme. >> it's a recurrent theme. with mitt romney the recurrent theme among republicans, the reason he doesn't have a lot of frentsds in his party is the idea that he's a vicious debater. newt gingrich called him a liar in which he demolished supposedly the best debater in the republican party and he is known to be a flip-flopper. what did he do in that debate, he flip-flopped. everybody played the type. >> dedrick's point is smart about mitt romney in some ways was the beneficiary of lowered expectations and the beneficiary of the success of the obama campaign as painting him as a character of a ba foonish budocrat. by the time john kerry took the debate stage the bush campaign had d
up in that debate with hillary clinton. >> right. >> again, that is who he is. i think we are totally for getting that. >> not only that, but i think we're also for getting that both of these men, to your point, they were who they always have been, even in governing. barack obama has infuriated his own base because of this perception that he doesn't fight hard enough. >> recurrent theme. >> it's a recurrent theme. with mitt romney the recurrent theme among...
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our bill clinton in the republican party? i thought marco rubio did a pretty good job, but here bill clinton disaggregated some complicated issues, simplified them come delivered them into the living room of every voter and have an intelligent conversation. that's what voters want, a sincere intelligent conversation. no bs, no fluff, no hyperbole, just give me the scoop and tell me where you think you can take us. that's where i think there is an opportunity still in the weeks remaining. and i believe that governor mitt romney has the capacity. to deliver that kind of level of sincerity and direction. >> they had that candidate addressing the general election 's problems i think it goes back to the numbers first was brought out today the 50.1% in the sense that he's just tried to do what is necessary to get elected. the other numbers 47 that we have heard so much about which goes to sort of taking the comment. i think that he went into this with a tenure because he didn't associate around people that much. i do think though t
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bill clinton did it. george bush. the idea is to take a deep dive into one's own policies and also look at your opponent's policies and make sure that you're deeply well read into all the the specifics. and so, nobody can be well versed in everything that you've done. i certainly don't remember what i did last year and i bet you don't either. every moment of it, so that's part of the goal. another part of it is to come up with those quote zingers or moments, as much they say they're thot doing it, you know they did it. that's part of it. to come armed with some ready lines to throw out when you need them. >> i'm not even sure i know what i did last week, so i get it. thanks so much. jessica yellin. we want to go back now to anderson cooper a anderson cooper in the cnn election center. >> candy, i can't remember what i did yesterday. let's talk about who has the edge going into tonight. >> anderson, a year ago, you would have said romney had the edge. obama has to defend his lousy jobs record. he's running better campa
bill clinton did it. george bush. the idea is to take a deep dive into one's own policies and also look at your opponent's policies and make sure that you're deeply well read into all the the specifics. and so, nobody can be well versed in everything that you've done. i certainly don't remember what i did last year and i bet you don't either. every moment of it, so that's part of the goal. another part of it is to come up with those quote zingers or moments, as much they say they're thot doing...
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that performance with hillary clinton, she was down. she was defending her basic personality, of who she is. a moment of weakness, he didn't need to dump on her. he needed to show some magazine anymority there. why didn't he respond to that moment? >> looked like he was preparing his next thought and he got drawn into her comment. the skill set for the promise to deliver -- for the president to deliver speeches well is very different than what it takes to debate. the fact that he's on television all the time -- >> he doesn't like to be challenged. this is a guy with supreme confidence in his ability who doesn't like to be questioned and who has held very, very few press conferences. not as few as george w. bush, but very few. >> he can be a little brittle. chris: let's go back to romney's must-do list. as we said, he's prepping to take a knick out of the president's credibility. >> the president tends to, how shall i say it? say things that aren't true. and in attacking his opponents, i've looked at prior debates. chris: at the same tim
that performance with hillary clinton, she was down. she was defending her basic personality, of who she is. a moment of weakness, he didn't need to dump on her. he needed to show some magazine anymority there. why didn't he respond to that moment? >> looked like he was preparing his next thought and he got drawn into her comment. the skill set for the promise to deliver -- for the president to deliver speeches well is very different than what it takes to debate. the fact that he's on...
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that characterized obama's notable gaffe during the 2008 primary when hillary clinton was asked what she would say to voters who seemed to like barack obama more. >> he's very likable. i agree with that. i don't think i'm that bad. >> you're likable enough, hillary. >> thank you. >> governor romney's 23 debate performances during the republican primary his weakness showed when he allowed competitors to get und her is skin prompting irritated off script moments that gave a new meaning to the #awkward. >> anderson -- >> you say you knew. >> would you please wait? >> are you just going to deep talking? >> yes, sir. >> let me finish what i have to say i'm running for office i can't have ill heels. >> when will you release yours? will you follow your father's examples? >> maybe. i don't know how many years i'll release. i'll take a look at what our documents are -- >> you asked me an entirely different question. >> wow. john heilemann, i can't get enough of the semi vintage romney debate clips but want to know as a resident expert on all things campaign related having written a book calle
that characterized obama's notable gaffe during the 2008 primary when hillary clinton was asked what she would say to voters who seemed to like barack obama more. >> he's very likable. i agree with that. i don't think i'm that bad. >> you're likable enough, hillary. >> thank you. >> governor romney's 23 debate performances during the republican primary his weakness showed when he allowed competitors to get und her is skin prompting irritated off script moments that gave...
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bill clinton just good enough. and president bush, he'll have to do much better. >> by morning, what had been last night's analysis had become conventional wiwisdom. in the headlines. on the "today" show. >> clinton did what he had to do and bush did not. >> and in instant polls. >> those polls show the president finishing third among people who watched the first debate. >> the bush people are getting very, very tired of hearing that the president did not hit a home run last night. >> so at this point as a nation, in our entire history as a country, we have had four national attempts of a challenger making his television debate debut against the sitting president of the united states. and after doing this four times as a nation, the record for incumbent presidents facing these challengers is 0-4. okay. so now 1996, incumbent president is that now not as young man from arkansas, bill clinton, and his challenger that year is bob dole. did bob dole really beat incumbent bill clinton in their first debate? actually, no
bill clinton just good enough. and president bush, he'll have to do much better. >> by morning, what had been last night's analysis had become conventional wiwisdom. in the headlines. on the "today" show. >> clinton did what he had to do and bush did not. >> and in instant polls. >> those polls show the president finishing third among people who watched the first debate. >> the bush people are getting very, very tired of hearing that the president did not...
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where is our bill clinton in the republican party. marco rubio did a pretty good job but bill clinton did segregated complicated issues. he had an intelligent conversation as voters want. they want a sincere intelligent conversation. no b.s. no head or hyperbole. give me the scoop and tell me where you can take us. that is weather is an opportunity. and the governor romney has that capacity. , the candidate was addressing the general election. if you look at governor romney's problems, and 50.1%, trying to do what is necessary to get elected. there is some of that lack of sincerity. the other numbers 47. he went into this with the team year because he did not associate one around for people that much but the campaign hopefully has allowed him to better tune his year's so fast forward has to be tonight. he has to look presidential and able. no long balls and that gets him started, and campaign these last few months. and they run a very poor mechanical campaign. they have to get field offices, that has to be corrected. >> the last year-
where is our bill clinton in the republican party. marco rubio did a pretty good job but bill clinton did segregated complicated issues. he had an intelligent conversation as voters want. they want a sincere intelligent conversation. no b.s. no head or hyperbole. give me the scoop and tell me where you can take us. that is weather is an opportunity. and the governor romney has that capacity. , the candidate was addressing the general election. if you look at governor romney's problems, and...
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those thing to rk with speal olympics with him, and gorbachev about his time in office and with bill clinton and with george bush, and to spend l of this time with george bush at camp david and to do horsese throwing and skeet and trap shooting and to sit in thes meetings -- >> amazing moments for a g from -- unknn kid from austa. >> it'unbelievable, that rid and the book also deals th the determation and the naticieness always keeping the eye othe and you know, the arnd les d ag that helped me get through and get the way i am today. so that's what the book is about. your tever you've done in life, when you've wanted someing badly enough, you've tended to get there. yoclearly would haveiked to pair your marriage to as you said, e e and only love of your life, really. if mia's watching th and she mighwell be watc t you know, i want to win her back anu know, i hope even though she talks out forgiveness, i hope that you really c foive. >> you tnk do you deserve to >> think everyone deserves to be forgiven and get a break. yes, i do. then it'up to me what i do with that. >> you've always been v
those thing to rk with speal olympics with him, and gorbachev about his time in office and with bill clinton and with george bush, and to spend l of this time with george bush at camp david and to do horsese throwing and skeet and trap shooting and to sit in thes meetings -- >> amazing moments for a g from -- unknn kid from austa. >> it'unbelievable, that rid and the book also deals th the determation and the naticieness always keeping the eye othe and you know, the arnd les d ag...
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he was tied with clinton in october although he one. one pollster questions the assumption made from today's polls. >> they assume you have the same high level of african-american, latino, yo ung people from 2008. >> david axelrod said polls are widely different in the methodologies so to think they are all wrong. but this is a close race. as we have always predicted. >> the race is not over. it can go back and forth 34 times. met romney half's to create the moment of. >> in the past races were the lead was cut or flipped it is roughly 5% and some cases it was the debate that moved the nidal. lou: our congressional correspondent. thank you mike. 1992 in depended candidate ross perot entered the first of october and ended up 19% of the vote. and special prosecutor decided to influence the outcome to take caspar weinberger with the iran contra affair to lead the way for william jefferson clinton. >> this is called art and to be funded it. we will talk about art to and religion and money and politics. two weeks of cover-up of the murder of
he was tied with clinton in october although he one. one pollster questions the assumption made from today's polls. >> they assume you have the same high level of african-american, latino, yo ung people from 2008. >> david axelrod said polls are widely different in the methodologies so to think they are all wrong. but this is a close race. as we have always predicted. >> the race is not over. it can go back and forth 34 times. met romney half's to create the moment of....
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and i, handled the messages, and bill clinton wanted to be challenged. he wanted people to take positions so he would stimulate and simulate what debates were like. i don't have a sense this president is necessarily operating in the same fashion. gerri: as you look at this, we have a poll here, winners of last night debates, among uncommitted voters, 46%, only 22% liked obama's performance. does that -- a, does that surprise you? b, what other fallout from the debate? romney attract more money? what's going on? >> it surprises me that that many people thought the president did well. you know, polls show the president's 20 some odd percent of people thought the president won the debate. i don't know who they are unless they are democratic supporters of the president who support him no matter what he said. there's a different take than what doug offered in the argument. there's no question he had several points in the debate, sort of nodding towards the center or talked about the importance of bipartisanship when he was governor of massachusetts, but i tho
and i, handled the messages, and bill clinton wanted to be challenged. he wanted people to take positions so he would stimulate and simulate what debates were like. i don't have a sense this president is necessarily operating in the same fashion. gerri: as you look at this, we have a poll here, winners of last night debates, among uncommitted voters, 46%, only 22% liked obama's performance. does that -- a, does that surprise you? b, what other fallout from the debate? romney attract more money?...
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bill clinton did have a full congress that was republican, but, of course, bill clinton was a democrat. and so you had fragmented government. george w. bush had a republican congress for a total of a bit more than four of his eight years, though bush scarcely has the list of legislative accomplishments that could rival lynn congress done johnsons -- lyndon johnson's or, to be fair, richard nixon's. perhaps the 2012 election will generate a unified government, but it would certainly be foolhardy to bet on that. most likely, according to most observers at this time, is the more or less maintenance of the status quo in which barack obama will continue to occupy the oval office while the republicans continue to control -- albeit by reduced numbers -- the house of representatives with the senate at this time, i think, being up for grabs. so we should be open to the possibility that the current election will fit the shakespearian description of sound and fury signifying nothing or very little with regard to domestic policy. and as i say, that is what i am focusing on. or perhaps not nothing.
bill clinton did have a full congress that was republican, but, of course, bill clinton was a democrat. and so you had fragmented government. george w. bush had a republican congress for a total of a bit more than four of his eight years, though bush scarcely has the list of legislative accomplishments that could rival lynn congress done johnsons -- lyndon johnson's or, to be fair, richard nixon's. perhaps the 2012 election will generate a unified government, but it would certainly be foolhardy...
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bush and bill clinton. we have a third-party candidates now. they are not as perhaps promising in some ways as ross perot or other third-party candidates. the question here from one of our twitter observers -- what have we lost by excluding third- party candidates from the debates? >> we have lost third-party candidates. [laughter] >> and obviously some third party supporters. and i mean this in an objective way, but excluding those who do not, by the numbers, have the chance to hold office -- what do we lose? >> i think we lose risk, people willing to take a risk, given the point that they are already behind, or not likely a person to be chosen. when you think about the primary season's -- often there much more productive because you have people like a ron paul. who are willing to bring up questions, make statements that the primary candidates will not make, because there's too much risk for them. one of the things that the independent or the third party candidates do is move the discourse and a way that is not allowable when you have the two
bush and bill clinton. we have a third-party candidates now. they are not as perhaps promising in some ways as ross perot or other third-party candidates. the question here from one of our twitter observers -- what have we lost by excluding third- party candidates from the debates? >> we have lost third-party candidates. [laughter] >> and obviously some third party supporters. and i mean this in an objective way, but excluding those who do not, by the numbers, have the chance to...